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Craigavon raver
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 Posted - 2018/02/15 : 21:40:53
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by Bring Me Round To Love:
Big G - Destiny
Coco & Static - The Future
V2 - Bodybagz
Interdance Kru - Hardcore Upstart
KC - Stompin In
Those tracks (and similar ones) appeared on a fair few albums actually. Usually generic compilations like "Essential Hardcore", "Ultimate Hardcore", "Strictly Hardcore", those spring to mind. I don't know what the story is, I imagine someone knocked them together and offered them ridiculously cheap for album use.
I could understand them being on those budget CDs with a few actual decent tracks, but why Dreamscape thought they would make good filler material is beyond me.
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That Dreamscape album is on Beechwood music, the same as those others I mentioned above. Perhaps their appearance was in the terms of the contract or something. Really good compilation, otherwise.
Yeah i think i have them on a cd as well, think its a decadance 1 
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Posted - 2018/02/16 : 12:17:20
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Originally posted by Craigavon raver:
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by Bring Me Round To Love:
Big G - Destiny
Coco & Static - The Future
V2 - Bodybagz
Interdance Kru - Hardcore Upstart
KC - Stompin In
Those tracks (and similar ones) appeared on a fair few albums actually. Usually generic compilations like "Essential Hardcore", "Ultimate Hardcore", "Strictly Hardcore", those spring to mind. I don't know what the story is, I imagine someone knocked them together and offered them ridiculously cheap for album use.
I could understand them being on those budget CDs with a few actual decent tracks, but why Dreamscape thought they would make good filler material is beyond me.
*EDIT*
That Dreamscape album is on Beechwood music, the same as those others I mentioned above. Perhaps their appearance was in the terms of the contract or something. Really good compilation, otherwise.
Yeah i think i have them on a cd as well, think its a decadance 1
I have a few Deccadance CDs as well. One called The Ultimate Hardcore album released in 2002 with 3 Sy and Unknown mixes and 3 unmixed ones with one CD having a few unknown tracks from 1999 which might be those tracks everyone is talking about.
The mixes where actually good though. Tracks like Technophobia, Heart of Gold and on other CD some better unreleased tunes.
I also have one that is just called Hardcore and had Sy and Unknown mixing then recent stuff which included some 'Donk' type of Hardcore! The unmixed CD were better value with some Old Skool and some more then recent stuff
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2018/02/16 : 12:26:08
Well it seems that The Ultimate Hardcore Album sure enough id include those tunes as well:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Ultimate-Hardcore-Album/release/221623
The comments are quite interesting as someone there actually says the same thing that everyone was saying here:
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Does anyone know who the producers were who made the tracks on disc 6? I'm guessing it was maybe a faily big name knocking out shit tracks for cheap compilations.
But who where these 'producers' though? It seems that they are nowhere to be found on discogs!
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Posted - 2018/02/16 : 13:03:11
We gotta ask Duncan Collins. He's name is both this and on Decadance's "Hardcore" (at least on the last ther are no filler tracks).
On The Ultimate Hardcore Album (6xCD) (2002):
"Compiled Duncan Collins. Mixed by Sy & Unknown."
On Hardcore (6xCD) (2004):
"Mixed and compiled by Sy & Unknown. Project Managed by Duncan Collins"
By the looks of it, I guess Sy & Unknown got more creative freedom on Hardcore?
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Posted - 2018/02/16 : 13:27:36
Nah I think he's to do with Decadance.
Those tracks were doing the rounds well before then on the beachwood stuff in the late 90s
Hardcore Explosion / Essential Hardcore
Reckon it's more likely something to do with Slammin Vinyl; as a lot of those other tracks on that album are signed to SV.
Hmmmmm. It's not like their poorly produced; they're just terrible pieces of music :P
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Posted - 2018/02/16 : 13:44:33
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Originally posted by Samination:
We gotta ask Duncan Collins. He's name is both this and on Decadance's "Hardcore" (at least on the last ther are no filler tracks).
On The Ultimate Hardcore Album (6xCD) (2002):
"Compiled Duncan Collins. Mixed by Sy & Unknown."
On Hardcore (6xCD) (2004):
"Mixed and compiled by Sy & Unknown. Project Managed by Duncan Collins"
By the looks of it, I guess Sy & Unknown got more creative freedom on Hardcore?
Well 'Mr G' did not get him name on Hardcore (6 CDs) but hen doing a search for those names it will just take you to a Hip Hop artist also called Mr G while another name takes you to 2009 Heavy Metal album released in Russia...
Was Duncan Collins the one behind these strange producers? Maybe e will never know!
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Posted - 2018/02/16 : 16:59:58
The True Hardcore series might deserve a mention, although I didn't get them myself. What were Supreme & Sunset Regime doing on there? I think it says something if an album directly leads to Stormtrooper quitting the scene for 7-8 years.
I recall there being one of those minimum-effort compilations released in the late 2000s which had 100 tracks, probably half of which were godawful FL Studio sounding shit. It had a very generic name so I'm going to have a hell of a time trying to find it.
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2018/02/16 : 20:08:10
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Originally posted by lurker:
The True Hardcore series might deserve a mention, although I didn't get them myself. What were Supreme & Sunset Regime doing on there? I think it says something if an album directly leads to Stormtrooper quitting the scene for 7-8 years.
I recall there being one of those minimum-effort compilations released in the late 2000s which had 100 tracks, probably half of which were godawful FL Studio sounding shit. It had a very generic name so I'm going to have a hell of a time trying to find it.
The Mcing on the albums might not have been the best, but over the piece I think True Hardcore was pretty decent. Sy/Unknown and Dougal/Gammer we?re both making a lot of good tunes at that time. Supreme/Sunset Regime were truly awful though.
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Posted - 2018/02/16 : 22:25:16
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
Well it seems that The Ultimate Hardcore Album sure enough id include those tunes as well:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Ultimate-Hardcore-Album/release/221623
The comments are quite interesting as someone there actually says the same thing that everyone was saying here:
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Does anyone know who the producers were who made the tracks on disc 6? I'm guessing it was maybe a faily big name knocking out shit tracks for cheap compilations.
But who where these 'producers' though? It seems that they are nowhere to be found on discogs!
Ha, there's me at the top asking the same hing as well!
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Posted - 2018/02/17 : 14:23:08
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
Well it seems that The Ultimate Hardcore Album sure enough id include those tunes as well:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Ultimate-Hardcore-Album/release/221623
The comments are quite interesting as someone there actually says the same thing that everyone was saying here:
quote:
Does anyone know who the producers were who made the tracks on disc 6? I'm guessing it was maybe a faily big name knocking out shit tracks for cheap compilations.
But who where these 'producers' though? It seems that they are nowhere to be found on discogs!
Ha, there's me at the top asking the same hing as well!
Nah, it'll have been one of those random behind the scenes 'in house' producers that just knocks stuff out for compilations in whatever style to save money.
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Posted - 2018/02/24 : 01:15:07
I honestly don't know, out of those that I have listened to I think CXH3 is my least favourite but it's still got a few good tunes on it...
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Posted - 2018/02/25 : 09:34:05
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There?s nothing hardcore about those Clubland X Treme albums more like pop shite.
Nah the first 2 for sure had a genuine UK hardcore feel to them. The 3rd one was terrible but mainly because of Breeze's mix. The 4th one was pretty good and then it got to shit after that, especially since they were promoting that new triplets sound at the time which never took off.
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Posted - 2018/02/25 : 09:37:25
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Originally posted by robertybob:
I disagree that the Hardcore Adrenaline albums were bad, some of the bootlegs were crap but I thought overall there's some great stuff on there. It sounds a bit dated these days, the style of music from that album isn't old-sounding enough to be considered old school but isn't new-sounding enough to get played in a DJ mix.
The Ministry of Sound hardcore albums were pretty abysmal, worst of which being Helter Skelter Vs Raindance Present Rave Nation The Anthems https://www.discogs.com/Slipmatt-Billy-Daniel-Bunter-Nicky-Blackmarket-Helter-Skelter-Vs-Raindance-Present-Rave-Nation-The-A/release/1176075
The bootleg CDs gradually declined in quality. The 3rd one was by far rhe worst. Stu Allan's mixes were always the best in the series, but the 2nd one was his weakest out of the 3. All DJ Seduction's mixes were disappointing. He had some great tracks on them, but the mix itself was a bit boring.
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Posted - 2018/03/02 : 23:09:11
I thought CXH1-2, 4 and 7 were fantastic. Think 4 is my fave. The difference between 3 and 4 is astonishing, like night and day. How they could go so wrong with the third one is beyond me. I will say it does have some fantastic tunes but they are few. Crash on CD2 is such an underrated tune! Also Silver Water is a classic.
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 07:54:37
Not sure why 3 is getting singled out so much. Sure, it wasnt up to the standard of 1,2 & 4, but compared to all of the clubland albums after 4 its still ahead imo. I think all 3 mixes had some absolute bangers which Id still happily listen to now. Even Breeze had a decent mix.
I do seem to remember that 3 came out fairly quickly after the 2nd one, so it might have been a little more rushed, hence the drop in quality, but it still represents a time when Hardcore was at its best imo.
Edit: Why the **** does this site replace every apostrophe with a question mark?!
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