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CDJay
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 Posted - 2018/10/28 : 16:41:26
Some were sourced from a CD I got from Stompy in 99 (!), but the one you mentioned is direct from DAT albeit recorded nearly a decade ago.
We're very, very, far beyond a sensible point to be cataloguing stuff from 20+ years ago.
Whenever possible, particularly if an issue is identified, we will always try to source another variant. It, increasingly, won't always be.
The most irritating thing is I essentially started doing this back in the early noughties, but then ended up running a label focused on "upfront" stuff and the "oldskool" tag was being used to beat us. Along with D&B. Or Freeform. Or whatever would mask the obvious fact we were far more interesting, better, and right more often than not 
I haven't had as direct an influence over most of these releases, bar the Stompy CD I had, and the one I'm currently working on, but Al Storm is one of the very few people who I'd trust to supply the best possible variant at any given time.
I'll do some digging, but it really might be a case of "this is the best there is, or ever will be" 
(I *love* Magic Moments, too, FYI)
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Samination
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Posted - 2018/10/28 : 17:28:48
Where did the guys behind Beats 24/7 get most of their stock, back in 2005?
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CDJay
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Posted - 2018/10/28 : 17:49:33
Hah!
Most was digitally sourced, *but* there were glitches ahoy (I know this, as I was getting Ruffage to fix loads of them, for my own sanity, and then I'd send them back to Slipmatt/Slam to hopefully replace the glitched variant)
Also, very crucially, it was primarily "large" catalogues (Vibes, Stage One) which is why there was at least some consistency with source and supply.. See also: 15 years ago. Every *single* CDR I have from that era has degraded and will no longer read even with recovery services.
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Samination
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Posted - 2018/10/29 : 05:47:49
crap, I guess I should try re-ripping the ones I have before they die completely :P
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CDJay
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Posted - 2018/10/29 : 09:10:54
Really, really do. Even archival grade ones could fail by now!
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Samination
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Posted - 2018/10/29 : 11:25:34
For how long are bought CD's supposed to last? I ripped a few from 1996 just a few weeks ago and had no problems
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CDJay
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Posted - 2018/10/29 : 11:31:52
"proper" cds, ie glass mastered, should last decades. Cdrs can degrade in a few years, never mind decades.
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Samination
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Posted - 2018/10/31 : 05:25:20
Well, 2 out of the 3 Beats 24/7 discs I had went through flawlessly at x4 read (Im no EAC freak). One did contain read and crc errors on most of the tracks, but from what I can hear, it didnt damage the tracks too much.
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CDJay
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Posted - 2018/10/31 : 14:01:27
That's pretty good going, I think only 3 or 4 from my entire Beats 24/7 and Kniteforce Complete Collection CDRs still read at all
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djDMS
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Posted - 2018/10/31 : 16:25:17
Why don't all these 20+ year old tracks sound absolutely flawless?
At that price I expect them to sound like the artists are performing them in my front room on a 50 billion quid system.
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