rafferty Senior Member
United Kingdom
313 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/11/17 : 00:37:18
Producer wise I think the UK hardcore scene has probably the most advanced productions it has ever had. The scene got in a bit of a rut near the end of the 2000s with everything sounding the same. Every producer looked at raver baby trance and freeform for inspiration.
You just can't keep rehashing the same old thing over and over again with no innovation and expect people to stay interested. People who never evolved just got left behind
The scene now seems to be very influenced by the EDM/House, Electro/trap and the Hardstyle scenes these days. Instead of the old trance from the past.
There is a lot of great talent still producing out there though.
Tweekacore
Minus the crown
Iyf & Nobody
Technikore & JTS
Callum Higby
Macks Wolf
Spyro
Jekyll
Alex Prospect
Andy Wilson
Mike Riverie
Ryan Kore
Spojaz
Entity
Fracus & Darwin
Scott Brown
Klubfille
I could go on forever. There is just a lot more variety in the scene and people who loved the raverbaby years are just nostalgic the same way old people say the 1960s music is better than today.
Maby check out a label called Totally Ardcore if you love the 2000s sounds. Reminds me so much of the older sounds some of you seem to like.
rafferty Senior Member
United Kingdom
313 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/11/17 : 01:13:35
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
quote:Originally posted by djDMS:
Thank God Hard house is still going strong and keeping it real!
In other news, I've been listening to loads of harder/faster stuff lately and I'm loving it.
Sefa is my new favourite producer, love his stuff.
Cue Guest in 3....2.....1....
Just a heads up, we are not allowed to talk about anything other than Hardcore!
Talking of Hardcore, when is the next Bonkers out?
I heard the new Bonkers will be a Hard House version with Lisa Lashes, Anne Savage & Lisa Pinup all on the front cover with Brisk (Stimulant Djs) as the boss with a cigar.
rafferty Senior Member
United Kingdom
313 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2018/11/17 : 04:23:18
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Every producer looked at raver baby trance and freeform for inspiration.
The scene now seems to be very influenced by the EDM/House, Electro/trap and the Hardstyle scenes these days. Instead of the old trance from the past.
This is why hardcore sucks now. If you want EDM, maybe find a different scene.
Man the only thing that sux is repeating a dated tance sound over and over again with no innovation. That is the definition of stupidity, a category you seem to fall into. Take a listen to Hardcore Heaven & Bonkers in 97. That is what original Hardcore is. Not what you like. Music will always evolve, whether you like it or not.
If you don't like things changing, maybe you need to find another scene lol..
carldj90 Senior Member
United States
266 posts Joined: May, 2010
Posted - 2018/11/17 : 06:09:18
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
Every producer looked at raver baby trance and freeform for inspiration.
The scene now seems to be very influenced by the EDM/House, Electro/trap and the Hardstyle scenes these days. Instead of the old trance from the past.
This is why hardcore sucks now. If you want EDM, maybe find a different scene.
Man the only thing that sux is repeating a dated tance sound over and over again with no innovation. That is the definition of stupidity, a category you seem to fall into. Take a listen to Hardcore Heaven & Bonkers in 97. That is what original Hardcore is. Not what you like. Music will always evolve, whether you like it or not.
If you don't like things changing, maybe you need to find another scene lol..
Well just saying find another scene is stupid. Saying things like that is exactly why people are complaining haha. Like if you can't find a solution then don't say anything.
There are legit reasons brought up here from some people who have been in the scene for a long while. AND someone posted some new Seduction doing the 97 style 2018 updates so like...the trance sound being repeated isn't stupid and perhaps innovative enough to make the scene thrive on both sides of the sea.
Although, a majority of the forums and posts on this website are just pure insanity and nonsense.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,214 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/11/18 : 09:55:11
Advanced production doesn't always mean success. The only reason the likes of Gammer and Darren Styles are getting more success, is because they've branched out to more successful (sorry, I mean more popular) genres, not because their Hardcore has gotten better, production wise.
Ins't the charm with Hardcore is that it should be a little filthy, unprocessed? Even the name Hardcore is implying that it's supposed to be edgy...
wait... did I just confirm that Hard House it more Hardcore than UK Hardcore?`DAMN YOU SMOOGIEE!!!
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Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,088 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2018/11/18 : 14:21:38
They've tapped the American market, it's really as simple as that.
Dance music in the UK has been well known, successful, commercial and part of the culture since the early 90s.
There's no longer a wave to ride here, it may have taken the US decades to catch up, but that's clearly where the surf is, now. :P
Advather Senior Member
United States
256 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2018/11/18 : 17:30:26
quote:Originally posted by Triquatra:
They've tapped the American market, it's really as simple as that.
People keep saying this and it makes me curious, what styles are popular are in the UK and elsewhere right now?
EDIT: In particular, I remember scrolling through my soundcloud feed full of Japanese producers a while back. It was always a lot of the same EDM garbage.
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,214 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2018/11/19 : 08:16:37
Grime, and dirt :P
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Triquatra Moderator
United Kingdom
12,088 posts Joined: Nov, 2003
Posted - 2018/11/19 : 09:39:12
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
People keep saying this and it makes me curious, what styles are popular are in the UK and elsewhere right now?
same as always really, most styles of dance music that have been popular since the 90s are still popular; apart from hardcore (haha).
The Annual 2019, from ministry of sound is at the number 2 spot on the UK Top 100 Compilations chart at the moment.
as I say though, this is the way it's always been for kids who were born 1987+ in the UK dance music has just been everywhere for them, they were brought up with it, it was never niche or special.
Hardcore WAS niche and special, that's why when it boomed, it boomed and we had the UK compilation charts littered with hardcore albums...buuuuut that's over.
It appears (from where i'm sitting over here) that the USA are enjoying finally being able to experience something that is so far removed from what their parents brought them up with.
I remember when I lived over there it was like some sort of ultimate sin to "admit" that you listened to dance music "dance music?....oh you mean techno? ****, that shit?!" the USA seem to be a far cry from that now! XD
Besides, It's called EDM now, so that makes it acceptable to listen to ;)
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