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rafferty
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 Posted - 2019/04/30 : 04:28:23
Seems to be a new production effect where a beat goes into a machine gun type tangent. Heard a few new tracks using it in Hixxy's latest Rinse FM Bank Holiday podcast.
Darren Styles latest called "Are you ready" As well as other tracks by Techikore, Alexander Norman etc..
Sends a crowd into a frenzy on dancefloors from what I have seen with party footage. Which is exactly what a Hardcore track should do.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 07:54:35
Machine gun drop at the 0:25 sec mark.
https://soundcloud.com/rinsefm/hixxy220419
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 08:43:41
No real opinion as I'm not into new hardcore, but it does sound like at the very start it says "Princess M"
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 09:36:20
Or as I call it, the 'chucking a drum kit down a flight of stairs' drop.
Hate it.
Psytrance influences in Hardcore do precisely zero for me.
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 10:32:04
I like those double/triple basses a lot. Brings a lot of energy I think!
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arpz
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 11:48:29
Sounds shit, hate it. Would probably leave the dancefloor and wait for something that sounded not shit.
Lots of people will enjoy it though because it's aggressive and they can talk about how 'sick' it is while doing the gun fingers
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 11:59:05
Maybe it would be different listening to it at a live event but it sounds shite on my iPhone.
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trippnface
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 17:41:15
I think it sounds great when transcend and cyrax use a similar style, except it sounds much better, not like that shitty sound gammer uses.
what a horrible mix. you couldnt pay me to sit thru 2 hours of that.
it's honestly like they all have no ****ing idea why we started listening to happy hardcore in the first place.
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Child Prodigy
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 Posted - 2019/04/30 : 18:11:56
I Like it. UK Hardcore needs experimenting with new sounds :)
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DJGouda
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 20:17:14
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Originally posted by Child Prodigy:
I Like it. UK Hardcore needs experimenting with new sounds :)
I generally agree with this. And while I don't dislike it, I feel this idea has become boring so quickly.
Literally every one of these UK Hardcore / Psytrance fusion drops sounds the same:
For example compare it with these:
(1:00), (1:36), (1:16).
I hear no difference!
Controversial opinion, but I don't think the hardcore from today is actually that bad. Sure I agree the producers at the very top are super boring. But I seem to be litterally the only one liking the hardstyle influence. For example I love the new stuff of Rob IYF, Al Storm (hero!), Daniel Seven and Technikore. Some quick picks of recent tracks I enjoy:
Frontliner is a very famous hardstyle producer with this track being an interesting take on the oldschool happy hardcore sound imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTGKkk6w2WU
A new Hixxy track that is actually quite lovely (3:53).
One of my absoulte favourite tracks by Al Storm that went totally unnoticed because it was released in Japan only.
https://holtunes.bandcamp.com/track/one-more-time
And in case you haven't heard it yet, Entity is back with a brand new banger!
Sadly I'm kind of moving away from happy hardcore away, mostly because no one seems to release any new music any more. MVP obviously still are HU, Kniteforce and now fortunately also 24/7. But I see myself listening to more and more hardstyle and frenchcore and hands up, which I noticed can be just as brilliant. Not trying to act like Guest or Smoogie xD but feel free to give these a chance:
Hands Up (super cheesy and the vocals usually suck, but the melodies tend to always be catchy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi38opdVSKc
Hardstyle (especially the new recent trance influence has given this genre a breath of fresh air):
https://youtu.be/-CtKPZ9bsNE?t=530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lUvygoR9qY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQCeVA9lZnM
Frenchcore:
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trippnface
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 20:32:27
quote:
Originally posted by DJGouda:
quote:
Originally posted by Child Prodigy:
I Like it. UK Hardcore needs experimenting with new sounds :)
I generally agree with this. And while I don't dislike it, I feel this idea has become boring so quickly.
Literally every one of these UK Hardcore / Psytrance fusion drops sounds the same:
For example compare it with these:
(1:00), (1:36), (1:16).
I hear no difference!
Controversial opinion, but I don't think the hardcore from today is actually that bad. Sure I agree the producers at the very top are super boring. But I seem to be litterally the only one liking the hardstyle influence. For example I love the new stuff of Rob IYF, Al Storm (hero!), Daniel Seven and Technikore. Some quick picks of recent tracks I enjoy:
Frontliner is a very famous hardstyle producer with this track being an interesting take on the oldschool happy hardcore sound imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTGKkk6w2WU
A new Hixxy track that is actually quite lovely (3:53).
One of my absoulte favourite tracks by Al Storm that went totally unnoticed because it was released in Japan only.
https://holtunes.bandcamp.com/track/one-more-time
And in case you haven't heard it yet, Entity is back with a brand new banger!
Sadly I'm kind of moving away from happy hardcore away, mostly because no one seems to release any new music any more. MVP obviously still are HU, Kniteforce and now fortunately also 24/7. But I see myself listening to more and more hardstyle and frenchcore and hands up, which I noticed can be just as brilliant. Not trying to act like Guest or Smoogie xD but feel free to give these a chance:
Hands Up (super cheesy and the vocals usually suck, but the melodies tend to always be catchy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi38opdVSKc
Hardstyle (especially the new recent trance influence has given this genre a breath of fresh air):
https://youtu.be/-CtKPZ9bsNE?t=530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lUvygoR9qY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQCeVA9lZnM
Frenchcore:
good post.
i definitely enjoy frenchcore & hands up. both sounding much better than the modern "hardcore"
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 20:33:15
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Originally posted by MusicILove:
First of all I don't like that drop. Perhaps I'm just getting old.
Second the melody at 2.09. I know I've heard it somewhere and it's been doing my head in all day. Does anyone know?
Please help my brain is breaking.
I have to know.
Not thinking of Recon's Pullover are you?
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rafferty
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 23:24:05
Sounds like Darren Styles was the creator of of it. Seems to go down really well with crowds from what I have seen with his live sets. Usually the lights flash at the same speed.
Sounds very fresh. I hope there are a lot more tracks made with this effect.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 23:28:49
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Originally posted by arpz:
Sounds shit, hate it. Would probably leave the dancefloor and wait for something that sounded not shit.
Lots of people will enjoy it though because it's aggressive and they can talk about how 'sick' it is while doing the gun fingers
Haha I can see an MC pulling out a fake machine gun during the drop.
I like that it sounds crazy and agressive. But each to their own.
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rafferty
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Posted - 2019/04/30 : 23:37:29
quote:
Originally posted by DJGouda:
quote:
Originally posted by Child Prodigy:
I Like it. UK Hardcore needs experimenting with new sounds :)
I generally agree with this. And while I don't dislike it, I feel this idea has become boring so quickly.
Literally every one of these UK Hardcore / Psytrance fusion drops sounds the same:
For example compare it with these:
(1:00), (1:36), (1:16).
I hear no difference!
Controversial opinion, but I don't think the hardcore from today is actually that bad. Sure I agree the producers at the very top are super boring. But I seem to be litterally the only one liking the hardstyle influence. For example I love the new stuff of Rob IYF, Al Storm (hero!), Daniel Seven and Technikore. Some quick picks of recent tracks I enjoy:
Frontliner is a very famous hardstyle producer with this track being an interesting take on the oldschool happy hardcore sound imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTGKkk6w2WU
A new Hixxy track that is actually quite lovely (3:53).
One of my absoulte favourite tracks by Al Storm that went totally unnoticed because it was released in Japan only.
https://holtunes.bandcamp.com/track/one-more-time
And in case you haven't heard it yet, Entity is back with a brand new banger!
Sadly I'm kind of moving away from happy hardcore away, mostly because no one seems to release any new music any more. MVP obviously still are HU, Kniteforce and now fortunately also 24/7. But I see myself listening to more and more hardstyle and frenchcore and hands up, which I noticed can be just as brilliant. Not trying to act like Guest or Smoogie xD but feel free to give these a chance:
Hands Up (super cheesy and the vocals usually suck, but the melodies tend to always be catchy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi38opdVSKc
Hardstyle (especially the new recent trance influence has given this genre a breath of fresh air):
https://youtu.be/-CtKPZ9bsNE?t=530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lUvygoR9qY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQCeVA9lZnM
Frenchcore:
Those top 3 track links are farkin brilliant. Exactly the kind of Hardcore I like. Jakka B, Alex Prospect & Darren Styles are definitely moving Hardcore forward to better things.
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DJGouda
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Posted - 2019/05/02 : 19:15:03
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Originally posted by trippnface:
good post.
i definitely enjoy frenchcore & hands up. both sounding much better than the modern "hardcore"
Thanks! Frenchcore is probably my style at the moment, especially Sefa who has some of the melodies I've ever heard. Hands Up has been kind of dipping in quality lately but in comparison to UK hardcore there are more tracks being released (every year four 3CD sets of fresh new tracks + tons of active labels).
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Originally posted by rafferty:
Sounds like Darren Styles was the creator of of it. Seems to go down really well with crowds from what I have seen with his live sets. Usually the lights flash at the same speed.
I'm pretty sure he's the one popularising that style. But like pretty much everything of Hardcore nowadays, the idea probably comes from hardstyle. I think it was this track back in 2016/17 that started it all.
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Originally posted by rafferty:
Sounds very fresh. I hope there are a lot more tracks made with this effect.
quote:
Originally posted by rafferty:
Those top 3 track links are farkin brilliant. Exactly the kind of Hardcore I like. Jakka B, Alex Prospect & Darren Styles are definitely moving Hardcore forward to better things.
Glad you like them. I can see this style staying around for longer, people go crazy to it live. Here are some more tracks of that style (beyond Styles, Jakka-B tracks and pretty much every hardstyle 170 bootleg):
https://scarreddigital.bandcamp.com/track/rob-iyf-stu-woods-t-virus
Oh and before I forget this is probably the right time to promote one of my awful tracks from about 1 or 2 years ago xD. The style of it should be pretty close to it I think. The production qulity and execution in comparison is absolute shit though.
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