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Wilky
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 Posted - 2010/03/13 : 13:55:29
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Originally posted by DjTriquatra:
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
Because the artists were complaining about it, yeah.. but if they agree with it I don't see what's the prob personally :/ That makes no sense to me
afaik as per silver: if every artist in the mix agrees with it then its fine. but as a general rule there are only two mods here and there are an awful lot of mixes put up its hard to keep track as is it - so unless its blatently obvious that all the artists used inthe mix have agreed then we are to take them down.
so why dont u take down live sets in other genres? Every artist hasnt agreed to it....
Thing is, this forum seems a little pretentious... Like its the be all and end all of hardcore forums... What a sad state of affairs if an artist has to go running to silver coz a track of his/hers appears on a mix that they didnt concent to... Wtf is that about... Do they not want their music heard?
If im comin accross as a **** then thats coz i am ;) just thinks its very sad and pathetic and the issue needs to be raised... Even more so if the complainees are reading....
If you are a complainee and reading then do u think its sad that a tracklist or set has been removed coz one of ur tracks was used?
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2010/03/13 : 13:57:05
i like the whole 'you dont have to use it' theory...
I go to a pub where all my mates are, but the jukebox isnt turned on. I'm not going to ditch my mates and go to a pub with a better jukebox. I'd ask for it to be turned on at the original pub.
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Posted - 2010/03/13 : 14:10:32
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so why dont u take down live sets in other genres? Every artist hasnt agreed to it....
that is because no trance, or hardstyle or dnb artists have complained.
im not defending the rules, they are silvers rules not mine.
acid - then thats your choice, and the pub owner reserves the right not to turn that jokebox on., and if we are keeping it in reference, you arent sitting in that pub giving it any business by buying drinks, your just a person standing in the middle of the room making loud noises :P
if it bothered you that much you would move to a different pub, but clearly it doesnt..
do you see silver changing his rules any time soon?
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Posted - 2010/03/13 : 14:14:17
I don't see silver much at all..
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Posted - 2010/03/13 : 15:40:45
that doesnt mean he's not here.
Silver kinda explained a bit of this a few years back. Along the lines of hardcore artists will sample a track without paying for copyrights and then get into trouble down the line. Think he gave an example of a post was made about a track ripped off something else. 15 minutes after this post a major record label was on the line asking him to explain. Add to that what Triquatra has said and I guess he then decided a blanket ban was appropriate.
I think that was how it went?
Not sure about the other genre stuff, but if it's slipping past the rules i'm certainly not going to complain about it.
Honestly, the forums rules are there for a reason. Just because we don't understand the reason does not mean that no reason exists.
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Posted - 2010/03/13 : 16:04:13
The rules are very fair and civilized, unlike a lot of other forums, and that's what I like about it.
Too many people these days think that it's their right to do and say what they want....
and totally devoid of any personal responsibility.
Well, thankfully, not here. 
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Posted - 2010/03/13 : 16:10:33
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Silver kinda explained a bit of this a few years back. Along the lines of hardcore artists will sample a track without paying for copyrights and then get into trouble down the line. Think he gave an example of a post was made about a track ripped off something else. 15 minutes after this post a major record label was on the line asking him to explain. Add to that what Triquatra has said and I guess he then decided a blanket ban was appropriate.
Well that explains a lot of course!
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Posted - 2010/03/13 : 23:26:07
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if i had to pay for my opinion, i wouldnt be here.
**** payin for this shite. Not as if the forum is up to date is it?
Forums gone down anyway no wonder a lot of the regs have left.
Or maybe come and look but dont feel its worth posting on.
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Posted - 2010/03/14 : 04:01:39
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
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Originally posted by Lilley:
Silver kinda explained a bit of this a few years back. Along the lines of hardcore artists will sample a track without paying for copyrights and then get into trouble down the line. Think he gave an example of a post was made about a track ripped off something else. 15 minutes after this post a major record label was on the line asking him to explain. Add to that what Triquatra has said and I guess he then decided a blanket ban was appropriate.
Well that explains a lot of course!
 Bit hazy on the details.
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You can't really complain about the forum and then continue to use it all the time, not without looking stupid anyway. Simple because it's your choice lol, if you don't like it you don't have to use it.
Once again, speaks the truth.
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Posted - 2010/03/14 : 15:33:20
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[quote]Originally posted by Lilley:
Silver kinda explained a bit of this a few years back. Along the lines of hardcore artists will sample a track without paying for copyrights and then get into trouble down the line. Think he gave an example of a post was made about a track ripped off something else. 15 minutes after this post a major record label was on the line asking him to explain. Add to that what Triquatra has said and I guess he then decided a blanket ban was appropriate.
Well that explains a lot of course!
well what it also comes down to also is paying royalties as well. if silver allowed a track list to be posted, the label(s) from which those tracks come from has the right to be paid royalties for their tracks wherever it is being played and is being acknowledged. Clubs and regular radio stations adhere to this rule and to make it easier for them they strike deals with major labels (BMG is one that strictly regulates this) so they would have the opportunity to play a larger variety.
as for why ush gets away with it, don't kno and i personally don't care. didn't like my experience there and would never hold an acct there again. it doesn't bother me iabout the tracklisting, but yea the trolling is a bit of a prob but at least they're trying to deal with it.
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Posted - 2010/03/14 : 16:10:51
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at least they're trying to deal with it.
hahahahahaha what?
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Posted - 2010/03/14 : 16:16:13
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Originally posted by Lilley:
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Originally posted by DJ Revs:
[quote]Originally posted by Lilley:
Silver kinda explained a bit of this a few years back. Along the lines of hardcore artists will sample a track without paying for copyrights and then get into trouble down the line. Think he gave an example of a post was made about a track ripped off something else. 15 minutes after this post a major record label was on the line asking him to explain. Add to that what Triquatra has said and I guess he then decided a blanket ban was appropriate.
Well that explains a lot of course!
well what it also comes down to also is paying royalties as well. if silver allowed a track list to be posted, the label(s) from which those tracks come from has the right to be paid royalties for their tracks wherever it is being played and is being acknowledged. Clubs and regular radio stations adhere to this rule and to make it easier for them they strike deals with major labels (BMG is one that strictly regulates this) so they would have the opportunity to play a larger variety.
as for why ush gets away with it, don't kno and i personally don't care. didn't like my experience there and would never hold an acct there again. it doesn't bother me iabout the tracklisting, but yea the trolling is a bit of a prob but at least they're trying to deal with it.
haha....... couldnt u handle ush? its full of dick heads but so is every other forum.. just fight back.. it makes their sad day.. too many people ive on that forum.. dont log off.. in fact their scared to log off... the big bad world is a scrary place.. much safer in cyberworld...
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Posted - 2010/03/14 : 19:11:38
I find it a shame you can't post tracklists when you upload a mix but other than that the rules don't bother me.
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Posted - 2010/03/15 : 09:23:24
speaking of which, is there an actual list of forum rules?
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Posted - 2010/03/15 : 09:40:38
where are the rules since there are areas i dnt understand.
- albums and releases go in the 'tracks, mixes amd annouce' forum...
why was the nsr2 album thread moved and the crushonhardcore album and all other albums left??
- no tracklists allowed (included consented ones)....
album tracklists are available...
is the forum biased to people with more status on the scene? is al storm posted a mix, im sure his tracklist would be left alone.
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