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Rayovac
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 Posted - 2010/03/17 : 21:54:21
I am seriously struggling in English III, and almost entirely because I'm having so much trouble identifying the functions/types of clauses and verbals (subjects, direct objects, objects of prepositions, predicate nouns, and so forth). Would anyone here be able to help?
Cheers.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/03/17 : 21:56:44
Wow school seems really hard in America (ironicaly).
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Rayovac
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Posted - 2010/03/17 : 21:59:17
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Wow school seems really hard in America (ironicaly).
No, I'm just an idiot.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2010/03/17 : 22:12:31
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Wow school seems really hard in America (ironicaly).
No, I'm just an idiot.
Not at all. I don't understand any of the stuff you speak of, i'm aware of it but i don't understand it. We don't get taught that stuff in school but im guessing you either 1. are in the extra 2 years of education or 2 are in college.
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Rayovac
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Posted - 2010/03/17 : 22:29:55
quote:
Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Wow school seems really hard in America (ironicaly).
No, I'm just an idiot.
Not at all. I don't understand any of the stuff you speak of, i'm aware of it but i don't understand it. We don't get taught that stuff in school but im guessing you either 1. are in the extra 2 years of education or 2 are in college.
I think it may just be my homeschool curriculum (doubtful)? Because this English III course is designated for 11th graders (probably the equivalent of year 10 or year 11 over there).
I should note that public school does actually pose a challenge in America, but the key word here is pose. "You're a high school graduate and you say you can't divide or multiply without a calculator? You can't identify a basic subject in a sentence? You think that the Sun orbits Earth and that vaginae consist entirely of "pussy juice?" Well that's fine with me, here's your hat! Now get the hell out of here!"
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Lorenzo.Tweakn
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Posted - 2010/03/17 : 22:38:26
im kind of good at this stuff. even though i havent done it since my freshman year(im a junior now). jus hit me up on MSN. i can prolly help. cheers.
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Posted - 2010/03/17 : 22:56:27
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
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Originally posted by Rayovac:
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Originally posted by Hard2Get:
Wow school seems really hard in America (ironicaly).
No, I'm just an idiot.
Not at all. I don't understand any of the stuff you speak of, i'm aware of it but i don't understand it. We don't get taught that stuff in school but im guessing you either 1. are in the extra 2 years of education or 2 are in college.
I think it may just be my homeschool curriculum (doubtful)? Because this English III course is designated for 11th graders (probably the equivalent of year 10 or year 11 over there).
Never heard of any of the stuff. I've not long since taken my English Language GCSE (for the second time, yes i am one of life's winners :D), which would be year 11, and i was never taught the things you mentioned. Home-schooling seems to be the way to go in Amurica.
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Lorenzo.Tweakn
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Posted - 2010/03/17 : 23:03:35
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Originally posted by Meathead:
Home-schooling seems to be the way to go in Amurica.
public school isnt that bad in america. its jus your willingness to learn.
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TheOneNOnly
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Posted - 2010/03/17 : 23:24:21
Public Schools aren't bad, at all. Students just need to be willing to do the courses they need, and no Rayovac, you're basically on the same path as most Public School's require. I remember doing that in High School. Of course, this is an area not in some town in the middle of no where with barely any tax income to afford anything.
AP classes exist everywhere, and most standards, because of Federal intervention "No child left behind", are being raised for higher classes required to graduate. Before were Trigonometry was an elective class, it is now being required, as long with the 'lower levels of math' are being pushed to middle schools.
We aren't on the extreme scale of Japan, and their required 12 hour school days, but the education isn't bad here. It's just the laziness of people, everywhere, not just America, that makes schools look "bad". Teachers can only motivate so much before students, and parents, have to be responsible for their own work. Sadly, this is where most people fail. Badly.
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Vitalism
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Posted - 2010/03/18 : 00:33:40
i took a course in linguistics. i should be able to help, but i can probably only do it through examples.
subject: "John is a football player" john would be the subject there, pretty easy.
direct object: "John throws the ball to Jane" the direct object is what the subject is directing the action to. the subject always does something TO the object, that object being the direct object in a sentence
preposition: the girl on the bus, they arrived after , what did you do it for ?
predicate: usually follows the a form of "to be", he is a student" "she used to be a doctor"
predicate nouns tell you more about the subject.
seriously, wikipedia is your best friend here pal. it sucks that you have to do that shit in highschool, i feel bad for you. it's easy once you do it over and over again.
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Posted - 2010/03/18 : 10:32:10
crap at inglees sorry. mate, I honestly cannot recommend any more highly getting a face-to-face tutor. Will help no end.
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atomsk
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Posted - 2010/03/18 : 20:33:31
Gahh i barley remember this stuff, got kicked out of my first year of freshmen year.
Predicate Noun; renames the subject of a sentence
Ex; "Rayovac is trying to be smarter.
Or
Rayovac will be the owner of this car.
With the first example, "is" is making Rayovac more smart.
With the second example, "will be" is making Rayovac the owner of the car, even if its in the coming time.
Direct Objects; Basically what two things are doing, as in what they are doing with the verb.
Subject + verb + what? or who? = direct object
Ex; Rayovac and Atomsk will read a book
Rayovac and Atomsk are the subjects;
Will read is the verb;
Book is the "who what" and the direct object;
I might be wrong, im a bit rusty at this, should you have done this a few years ago and not in 11? We had to do this in 8th in Florida and we did it in 9th in Illinois and those school where dumb. Even though i don't talk like it, i know some of this stuff, i just choose to sound like i have a dick in my hand most of the time.
Well tell me if that help or not :b
Edit, had to fix one thing ><
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